I have really enjoyed learning about Chapin’s Five Productive Talk Moves. Although I have unknowingly used these strategies while teaching in past years, I have never really thought about them in depth. Using revoicing, students really have a chance to process their own thinking while the teacher or other individual voices their steps in proper terms. Asking students to restate someone else’s reasoning and to apply their own reasoning requires that students understand a strategy, perhaps one different from their own. Finally, prompting a student for further participation and using wait time allows a student the opportunity to respond on his or her own. It is important that we respect the child’s thought process and encourage the child to share their opinions, proving that we value their skills. While I am aware of these techniques, I still find it somewhat difficult to use them in the midst of teaching under time restraints and other pressures. I hope to become more comfortable using these strategies over the semester and into future years of teaching.
I did not teach or observe math this week, as I was in a Data Analysis Meeting for the 5th grade team on Tuesday and the 4th grade team on Wednesday. Last week, I remember observing a lesson on operations and key words that provide hints to which operation should be used in word problems. I noticed my teacher is excellent at providing sufficient wait time with students. She will call on students but if they are hesitant to answer, she will tell the student to think about his answer, as she probes other students. If the student is still stuck, he may ask for the help of a friend. At times, the silence is almost uncomfortable. The students realize, however, that their teacher is expecting an answer and that she is willing to give them ample time to respond. I will certainly be looking to my teacher as a model for this “talk move.” One other strategy she demonstrates particularly well is revoicing. Since my students are ELLs, it is critcal that my teacher models appropriate math language and vocabulary (and English language too) to aid their instruction.
If I could redo the lesson, I would also have students restate their friend’s reasoning. I think, in this way, students would be attentive to all problems rather than only the ones that are designated to one student by name. Students could also gain better insights to problem-solving strategies that could potentially be easier or more efficient. I would integrate this talk move into the teaching practice with simple prompts, like, “Student ___ can you tell me in your own words how Student ___ solved the problem?” I find this method would get students more involved in the lesson and foster a positive classroom culture.
*** NO pictures this week because I was in the Data Analysis Meetings mentioned in paragraph 2
I did not even think about how beneficial Math Talks would be for ELLs. I appreciate you bring that to my attention. Revoicing definitely would be a great technique to use for students who are learning english or even are bilingual. Having a student repeat what someone else said also allows them to ask questions if they did not understand what another student said. Also, if a student was allowed to repeat what a student said in the language they are most comfortable in would help the comprehension process.
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Thanks for this post, Christi. I'm a little sad that you didn't get a chance to really observe or teach during the week. But I'm glad you thought through the moves and how you might integrate them into your own practice.
ReplyDeleteYou're right in that they can be incredibly difficult to do well. And they don't work immediately either. Wait time, like you noticed, can get very, very uncomfortable. But it really helps students, especially the students that we work with.
Like I mentioned in my blog wait time has to be used appropriately and is precious to student understanding. I believe your teacher has a better understanding of the beauty of wait time and its benefits. She waits for the student to figure it out on his own, but speaks to other students about the problem while he is working. Unlike my teacher who lets all the students sit in silence and confusion until he feels it is appropriate to continue. This is a misuse of wait time.
ReplyDeleteSide note: That is awesome you got to sit in on a Data Analysis meeting for 4th and 5th grade! I am sure that was a meaningful experience for you, and that is great you got that type of experience in your internship. I am going to sit in on a, "SPED Spread" meeting next week, when the special education teachers meet together all day, and each grade team comes in during their work time to discuss students, accommodations, and modifications for their students. It is a time to pick the brains of the SPED teachers. I cannot wait to see and experience those types of interactions between special education and general education teachers. Your situation is a perfect example of the unpredictable schedules of special education teachers. They can get in the way of other obligations and tasks. You made some thoughtful points and considerations despite not formally observing a specific math lesson.
ReplyDeleteI just recently started working more with ELLs, and I never thought about revoicing as a good technique for working with them. That's really cool that you were able to go to a Data Analysis meeting. I have never really heard of that before, but it sounds interesting, haha.
ReplyDeleteJust like Amy, I think it is really good that you got to sit in on a Data Analysis meeting. However, I'm curious, what does that even mean?!?! Is it like the team meetings where teachers get together because they have to, and should be trying to interpret their students progress for the week but really the teachers sit and gossip about how they hate this or what that student did or just how exactly are they supposed to fit WOW time in. Where the teachers able to be productive? What kind of data were they going over?
ReplyDeleteI think it's a great idea to allow the students (if you could reteach) to explain what their peers have said. Not only is it a good practice to keep the students on task but being able to explain something that has been told to you is a way to demonstrate comprehension. Because what's the use of having students explain their thoughts, of the other students aren't listening or understanding them?!
Great post Christi!
I think a data analysis meeting is one that comes up with tier 2 interventions in RTI. Don't quote me on that one.
ReplyDeleteI have yet to have an opportunity to work with ELLs, but I can see how these strategies can be extremely beneficial to students and teachers alike. It not only helps the teacher to gain a better understanding of the students thought process and abilities, but also reinforces language for the child. Great point!
Eric
Just so everyone knows... A "data analysis meeting" is basically a progress monitoring team meeting. The principal, job training coach, counselor, reading specialist, grade-level teachers, and both regular and bilingual special ed teachers were all in attendance. It's a day long conference (one day per each grade) where the teachers share reports on students reading levels, math scores, etc.. and how they feel they are doing so far. Based on their scores from the previous years' TAKS test and their progress, students are evaluated to determine what language they will be taking the TAKS in this year (English or Spanish), whether they need additional reading support, and if they should be on the impact list.
ReplyDeleteSo, it's a time when all professionals can share what they know about the students, their strengths and their weaknesses.. Teachers also discussed classroom management and some behavior issues, and other miscellaneous items. It was neat to sit in on and I didn't notice much gossiping about students. They kept it very professional, but there were still times when you could feel tension building between some of the teachers and the principal. Overall, I really admire the way this school takes collaboration between team members seriously!